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Fri, 11 Jul 2008 6:49pm-0700, Terrence Briggs <mrman1mrman1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Warning: Geekspeak ahoy...
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> S.t.A.n.L.e.E wrote:
> > Sun, 6 Jul 2008 8:47am-0700, Terrence Briggs <mrman1mrman1@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> >
> > > Cross-posted to rec.arts.animation, cuz... ya know...
> > >
> >
> > *sigh* Why do you always have to ruin my fun....
> > I was just waiting for you to do that, slowpoke! ;-p
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> Keeping relevant secrets from big-daddy, low-traffic animation
> newsgroup is not fun :-P
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And it hath begun!
Can WALL-E Win Best Picture?
http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1820824,00.html
>
> > > On Jul 1, 2:53=EF=BF=BDam, "S.t.A.n.L.e.E"
<LostRune+...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Tue, 1 Jul 2008 2:47am-0400, S.t.A.n.L.e.E
<LostRune+...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>:
> > >
> > > > > Just saw WALL-E with kids late at night in a packed theatre
> > > > > with a healthy mix of teenagers and other grown-ups with kids:
> > >
> > > Sat next to two adult lovebirds in my theater. To their credit,
they
> > > weren't making out. I think...
> > >
> >
> > The teens are most likely the ones. ;-)
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> I didn't ask if they were legal or anything. I'm not THAT kind of
> journalist.
>
A journalist shouldn't be afraid to seek the truth. *tsk*tsk*
Speaking of, those 2 Chun-Li girls are still looking for their article.
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> > > But yeah, must of the audience that Friday evening was kiddie-kid
> > > collectives and their adult chaperone units corralling them. 75%
> > > full, by my estimate.
> > >
> > > > > 1. It's about robots.
> > > >
> > > > > 2. It's about robots in love.
> > >
> > > Okay, Mr. Machinehead-with-extra-pouty-Summer Glau-OS-XXX, how well
> > > did Osamu Tezuka's Metropolis do in Japan?
> > >
> >
> > Was Metropolis released widely in Japan?
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> Dunno. Aren't you our man in Japan with the news articles and stuff?
>
When was that?! Not in Japan. ^_^
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> > > > > 3. WALL-E is a weak nothing-going-for-him sweet romantic packrat
=
geek;
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> > > Kinda bottom-heavy, too. Rusty and all that. The female, on the
> > > other hand...
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> > I cannot lie: she likes big butts. ^_^
> > But then, she's an egg.
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> Ha! Good one.
>
Good that you still have that sense of humor.
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> > >
> > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDEVE is a dominant goddess-powered
never-propos=
itioned kinda-tsundere.
> > >
> > > Heh. So I wasn't the only one who picked up on the "exotic alien
> > > warrior babe" vibe.
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> > Who wouldn't?! She was/is scary! 0_0
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> But.. not all guys equate "scary warrior chicks" with "babe"
>
Guys are always fond of gals who could kick their butts. ^_^
(But sweet on the inside - tsundere.)
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>
> > > But she looks like an iMac. Oh, Steve Jobs... you product-placing
> > > weasel chairman you :-)
> > >
> >
> > This iMac? http://www.theapplecollection.com/iMac/iMacGirl.shtml
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> Ew. Otaku Mac pr0n. Don't do that.
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Dude! She's wearing an 1-piece!
>
> > Or reverse OS-tan (hardware, instead of software)?
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OS-tan
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> Lemme guess, Unix is the one with the gl*****, and the Mac OS 9 is the
> pretty ditz? :-)
>
No. If you had clicked on the link, you'd know! ^_^
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> > > > > 4. There's hardly any dialogue to lose in translation
> > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BDparticularly in the first act, ~1/3rd of the
m=
ovie.
> > >
> > > As I observed elsewhere, the film has only 3 or four major scenes
tha=
t
> > > are dialogue driven. It's about 75% dialogue-free. That's why its
> > > success astounds me, just a bit, especially among kids. Gives me
> > > additional hope, actually.
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> > Picture-driven story than constant yapping?
> > Are you going to complain like Kung Fu Panda? ^0^
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> Maybe if there were a LOT less Jack Black, and Dustin Hoffman, I
> wouldn't have complained. And yet, I would probably complain, "Why
> hire Jack Black if you're not gonna have him say anything and
> everything that's on his mind during every second of his character's
> screen time? Oh, right... STUNT CASTING!!!!"
>
I knew you'd understand.
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> > > > > 5. WALL-E already mispronounces EVE's name as EV-uh.
> > >
> > > Heh. Japanese-friendly phenomes. (No "L"s or "R"s, though :-P :-P
:=
-
> > > P )
> > >
> >
> > My little god-daughter kept wondering why WALL-E kept mispronouncing.
=
^_^
> > ("Her name's EVE! Not EV-uh! Why is he calling her that?!")
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> That's some castellan you got there. She's gonna be just like me when
> she grows up.
>
Not how you ****tray yourself! ;-p
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>
> > > > > 6. The two protagonists just keep saying their names.
> > > > > =EF=BF=BD =EF=BF=BD(Have you noticed that Japanese charas say
nam=
es way too often?)
> > >
> > > Heh. Unlike your average banal anime characters, Wall-E's robot
lead=
s
> > > have an English vocabulary of, like, 2 or something ("Wall-E",
"E-va"=
,
> > > and "directive").
> > >
> >
> > This ain't no Pokemon!
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> Well, at least Pikachu has infinite variations on its 3-word
> vocabulary.
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> > > > > 7. A future environmental moral message that'd make Hayao
Miyazak=
i blush.
> > >
> > > Your later post clears that up, by clearing out the room. ("No no
> > > no... it's not environmentally alarmist! Really! I was just being
> > > imaginative!", is my paraphrase.)
> > >
> >
> > Hmmmm... but would Miyazaki still appreciate it?
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> Heh. He'd probably grin at the subconscious messages he's implanted
> into the minds of Hollywood's premiere animators. "It's working! And
> they don't even suspect!"
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> BTW, NPR's Fresh Air interviewed Wall-E director Andrew Stanton on
> Thursday, 7/10/08. Got that podcast!
>
Good you got it!
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> > > > 7b. Oh, there's a lot of flying, not just once but twice!
> > >
> > > "Define: dancing"
> > >
> >
> > Ha! That was corny of you. ^_^
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> It was corny of the movie, too!
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Nah, it's just you. ^_^
>
> > > > > 8. A social criticism about the hazards of over-reliance in
techn=
ology.
> > >
> > > In a CGI animated film, nah!!!! :-)
> > >
> >
> > Ironic.
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> Or hypocritical. But we reserve hypocricy charges for Dreamworks
> films, don't we? :-)
>
The difference being reliance vs. over-reliance.
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>
> > > > > What else?
> > >
> > > It's a Pixar film distributed by Disney. The Mouse has Theatrical
> > > Distribution Muscle. The Lamp has Cinematic Currency. It'll
destroy
> > > the competition in Japan.
> > >
> >
> > Well, besides that!
> > But would you go out on a limb and say it'll outdraw Spirited Away?
>;=
-]
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> Hell-the-funk no. Nothing will, until the next Titanic or something.
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> What does the Japanese box office look like, anyway? Something
> like...
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> 1) Spirited Away
> 2) Howl's Moving Castle
> 3) Titanic
> 4) Princess Mononoke
> 5) E.T.
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A year old:
<http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=3D20070624062027AAaCZ8V>
1. Spirited Away, 2001, $228.6 million
2. Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets, 2002, $142.8 million
3. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone, 2001, $127.7 million
4. Titanic, 1997, $101.8 million
5. The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, 2002, $59.2 million
6. Star Wars, Episode 1: The Phantom Menace, 1999, $50.8 million
7. Princess Mononoke, 1997, $50.0 million
8. The Case Book of Young Kindaichi, 1997, $47.6 million
9. Armageddon, 1998, $45.5 million
10. Independence Day, 1996, $44.2 million
>
> Maybe it'll beat E.T.
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> In this country, I believe Wall-E will beat Incredibles (which had a
> similar-sized opening, but kinda underperformed over the long haul),
> but not Finding Nemo.
>
Yeah, among kids, fish will always beat love story.
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>
> > > Terrence Briggs, wrangling up some more European animation from
> > > Netflix. Cartoon Noir wasn't enough!
> > > Peace to you...
> > >
> >
> > Try Russian: http://tinyurl.com/5r8o9p
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> You could just give me the title, dude. I was reading the post
> offline, and couldn't follow the link.
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It's not a title. ;-)
Laters. =3D)
=09=09Stan
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