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>>"Blade" <kumonryuu@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>>>> I thought so as well. It hardly sounds in the character's nature.
>>>
>>>Why?
>>>
>>>He does the exact same thing when L strolls into the university and
says
>>>"I'm L". There's nothing that makes you think Light can accept defeat
>>>with
>>>dignity. In fact, quite the opposite.
>>>
>>>I tend to believe (with some interesting anecdotal evidence from Hybrid
>>>Theory) that a lot of people seem to buy into a villain's own
>>>self-promotion
>>>if they're smooth enough about it.
>>>
>>>Ask yourself precisely why you think Light wouldn't scream and cry and
>>>beg
>>>if he himself was the one being killed.
>>>
>
> I guess it all depends on whether you see him as rational. Is he merely
> a criminal, or is he criminally insane? I think that with all his
> reasoning,
> planning and careful manipulation, some may tend to forget, that
although
> he
> can be rather brilliant at times, he is also very much a psychopath. For
> me, It's not that I buy into his self promotion, but that I believe that
> he does. So much so in fact, that I just don't see Kira's narcissism
ever
> allowing him to believe he could be so completely defeated, even with it
> staring him literally in the face. He thinks about it, he talks about
it,
> he even plans for it, and at times shrugs the idea off, but none of that
> is quite the same thing as accepting it. Becoming enraged that his
> opponent
> believed the game was over, and they'd won, seems more likely. That or
> scheming and manipulating to the very end.
As I already pointed out, he did the exact same thing when he thought L
beat
him - freaked out and carried on like a lunatic. He also reacts badly to
when the "Lind L. Tailor" incident happens.
Light is capable of knowing when he's beaten, and he reacts extremely
poorly
to it. This is repeatedly demonstrated. The difference in the two previous
times is that he eventually thinks of a plan and calms down. He doesn't
here
because he's lost everything and there's no going back (actually, he DOES
come up with the backup plan of getting Ryuk to kill everyone, but it
fails). It's completely consistent with his character throughout the
series.
Again, there's the Light mystique playing up here. He's not so insane he
can't tell when he's beaten. He's not anything other than a smart human
murderer. Nothing else. That's the whole point and it's pretty consistent.
> Also, and maybe it's just me, but with all that aside, I don't see
someone
> who's on such intimate terms with death, and who has first hand
knowledge
> that their are no eternal consequences to his actions, being so
terrified
> of dying. Not wanting to die, sure, but not being reduced to a sniveling
> wretch.
He's terrified of death for the exact same reason many people turn to
religion - nothing terrifies people more than ceasing to exist. In Light's
case, there's also being completely beaten which (as we know) freaks him
out.
> Maybe the sniveling ending seems appropriate to some because of Light's
> incident in the car with his father early on. But that was Light alone,
> without the influence of the deathnote inspiring and feeding his
delusions
> of godhood, without the knowledge of all the blood on his hands.
Once again, that's still the exact same guy. It took him less than a week
of
having the Death Note to become the character we see in most of the
series.
> Out of curiosity, how is the death of Kira handled publicly? The
> conspiracy-
> theorist in me would think the governments of the world, would have a
> vested
> interest in keeping his death silent, allowing the general public to
> believe
> he was still a boogy-man, out their waiting to dispense death to the
> deserving.
It doesn't really say precisely. Many people believe Kira will return,
obviously (including, ironically, Misa).
-
Blade


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